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How to Alienate a Loyal Vegan of Decades Desperately Trying to Buy Your Product (Without Feeling Swindled)

How to Alienate a Loyal Vegan of Decades Desperately Trying to Buy Your Product (Without Feeling Swindled)

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By Tony "WhyNot" Greenberg

A loyal vegan customer details their frustrating experience with Rebel Vegan Cheese's misleading promotions, poor customer service, and difficult checkout…

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Before You Read

Before you read 'How to Alienate a Loyal Vegan of Decades Desperately Trying to Buy Your Product (Without Feeling Swindled)': What do the best negotiators and the best jazz musicians have in common?

Reveal

They both know that the most powerful move is listening — and the second most powerful is knowing when not to play.

Hint

It's about what you don't do.

In a world where companies can easily convert frustrations into loyalty, Rebel Vegan Cheese missed the opportunity to make an ambassador out of me. And I think they are creating very special products for people like me.

Why do I spend the time? One similar now removed post cleaned up Siete Foods in the early days for making their products seem healthy when they contained pork lard. Now look at them as a vegan phenom.

After decades as a dedicated vegan, I’ve mastered the art of hunting down great plant-based products. So when Rebel Vegan Cheese tempted me with their “Buy cheese, get two free wheels!” ad, I took the bait—only to find myself in a maze of misleading promos, shipping surcharges, and some of the most dismissive customer service I’ve experienced. I loaded my cart with many cheeses and combinations, over a $100, fully expecting my free wheels to appear. None of my three combinations were included in the promo. But Rebel Vegan Cheese had other plans, hitting me with terms that felt less like “small print” and more like “invisible ink.” When I asked for help, they hit me with a vague response about “niche” artisan cheese—basically, a fancy way of saying,

“Hey, it’s pricey, deal with it.”

So, I pressed on, determined to buy their product. I spotted another promo for “World Vegan Day” with layered discounts—a confusing reminder of deals I’d just missed. And then came the kicker: their checkout process. You’d think a modern vegan brand would streamline their payment methods, right? Wrong.

First, Apple Pay was mysteriously unavailable. So I turned to PayPal, usually a hassle-free option. Except with Rebel, PayPal was anything but. Instead of letting me breeze through with my pre-saved shipping details, I had to re-enter everything manually. This back-and-forth killed the simplicity of a “one-click” checkout and made me feel like I was in a time warp back to 2005.

When I pointed out that all this hassle and profit-laden shipping might turn off even the most committed customers, Rebel’s response was, in essence, “Artisan vegan cheese isn’t cheap and the market is niche.” You could practically hear the shrug. The response came courtesy of a former Apple rep who seemed to have forgotten that customer service involves serving the customer, not just nodding along protecting a $20 fake discount that could have been fixed easily. Ah, yes, that timeless sales tactic: Tell the customer it’s a privilege to be frustrated.

Founded by Kristen Maitland and Fred Zwar in Austin, Rebel Vegan Cheese clearly has a vision for bringing plant-based cheese to the world. Yet somewhere between the founders’ intentions and the actual customer experience, the plot was lost. The promos are riddled with conditions, the shipping costs feel like a profit play, and the checkout process fails at the very basics of user convenience. If these well intentioned mission driven owners want me to remove or edit this post, please let me know how you will shift your customer service experience. I will be happy with the progress.

For anyone curious about the finer points of customer loyalty and the perils of “extractive capitalism,” here are some great reads:

– [Forward Health is a Sideway Step at Best]

– [Why Good Service Is All About Trust]

Let me also recommend these amazing companies who I have had extroadonary experiences with for vegan cheese

SriMU – Literally the finest boutique cheese on the market and super conscious company

Herbivorous Butcher:

I am super excited to try Stockheld from a former customer of mine

Vreamery, yet avoid and protest Rebel, which is sold there:

Great guidance here on qulity DTC customer service

In the end, buying cheese shouldn’t feel like an obstacle course. Here’s hoping Rebel takes a cue from companies that actually make customer loyalty a priority.

UPDATE from Monday morning: Just in, I thought to share they have spammed my mobile number 6x since yesterday. Its time to fire their direct response marketer.

About the author:

Tony Greenberg: Champion of Social Impact and Human Rights

Tony Greenberg, a B-labs certified company, the rarest black belt of all principled companies leverages technology and analytics to drive social impact and uphold human rights. As founder of RampRate, he directed billions in IT spend toward meaningful initiatives, ensuring transparency and accountability in an industry often plagued by greenwashing. His investments and advisory roles in numerous impact-driven startups and charities, from mental health initiatives to educational programs in rural India, highlight his commitment to positive change.

Tony’s work spans projects as diverse as creating eco-conscious tech solutions for Fortune 500 companies, guiding sustainable practices, and supporting indigenous rights across Latin America and Africa. Notably, he facilitated a multi-million-dollar grant for the Xprize Foundation, empowering communities to vote on impactful social projects.

With investments in Capria.vc and a dedicated role as an emissary for Bhutan’s Gross National Happiness Centre, Tony remains at the forefront of projects that champion human rights, privacy, and environmental stewardship. His commitment to ESG and CSR initiatives has transformed corporate approaches at eBay, Microsoft, Sony, and beyond. Passionate and tireless, Tony Greenberg is a force for transparency, equity, and compassion in business and beyond.

The Lesson

A brand is a promise. When that promise is broken, it is not just a sale that is lost, but a piece of the future we are trying to build together.

Next Steps

  • Read about the principles of conscious capitalism.
  • Support and promote brands that demonstrate true customer-centricity.
  • Share your own stories of brand loyalty and betrayal to hold companies accountable.

Since this was written

Bad Customer Experiences Put Nearly $4 Trillion at Risk in Global Sales

PR Newswire · 2024

This news story validates the post's central argument that poor customer experiences have significant financial consequences and can alienate even loyal customers.

  • #customer experience
  • #brand loyalty
  • #vegan
  • #e-commerce
  • #customer service
  • #deceptive marketing
  • #vegan cheese
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The Crusades — Part 1 of 7

Seven investigations into corporate betrayal — from fitness fraud to hidden fees to the death of customer loyalty. These are the stories companies don't want told.

  1. 1.How to Alienate a Loyal Vegan of Decades Desperately Trying to Buy Your Product (Without Feeling Swindled) You are here
  2. 2.Luz Lounge: Where Loyalty Goes to Die (and Groupon Deals Are Just Lipstick on a Lasered Pig)
  3. 3.Fitness Fraud Trap: How DMN8 Gym Became a Poster Child for Deceptive Billing Practices
  4. 4.DMN8 Santa Monica: The Most Outrageously Beautiful (and Crooked) Gym in the World?
  5. 5.Lodge Bread Stuck In Suck-Cess with No Customer Service As Good as Their Bread
  6. 6.Forward Health is a sideway step at best
  7. 7.Hiding Fees & Tips in the Transparent Age is Just Bad Business
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Originally published at tonygreenberg.com

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We are living through the largest transfer of wealth, power, and attention in human history. Every essay on this site is a dispatch from the front lines of that fight — naming what's extractive, building what replaces it. If this one landed, it's because the question it raises hasn't been answered yet — and probably won't be by the people currently in charge of answering it.

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